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Author Pedram Nimreezi <zenstyle@gmail.com>
Full name Pedram Nimreezi <zenstyle@gmail.com>
Date 2007-09-24 22:52:39 PDT
Message first of all I'm agreeing with Cameron...

On 9/24/07, Alexander Kahl <akahl at iconmobile dot com> wrote:
> Hi Pedram
>
> On Sat, 2007-09-22 at 18:26 -0400, Pedram Nimreezi wrote:
> > I have a lot of experience with memcache... it was definitely not
> > written to handle this...
> To handle what exactly? According to its docs, It was written primarily
> for caching frequent DBMS requests and load-balancing the results
> between several involved memcache servers.
> Do you mean it wasn't written to handle every single DBMS request
> possible?

yes.. to start.. it's a completely abstract container..
designed to hold and retrieve data... if it's session data that's not
it's concern.

>
> > but be that as it may I'm pretty sure it can still be done, it
> > would probably require the chaining of invalidators along with validators in the
> > cache aspect...
> > btw I'm the one that's optimized propel for opcode cache
> > accelerators... it's just
> > not a recent version.... summarily I've learned that the bottle neck
> > is always the
> > database and not how you connect to it... thats why PDO in my opinion
> > is overrated
> > in this context....
> Is this related to the actual discussion? I don't get the point of how
> the DBMS abstraction layer is involved here, sorry.
>
talking optimization... it has many areas...sorry

> > you're just not gonna get more performance from the database
> > no matter how much faster you request or convert the data.... increased speed at
> > this tier level is completely application level logic... also if you
> > extract objects
> > from memcache you still need to include the source files so it's still
> > not as if you're
> > pulling data objects hot from the grill...
> You mean requesting memcache data still requires to include Propel's
> generated files to get the actual related request..?
>
right.. unless of course you used separate data transfer objects (value objects)
to represent that data....

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Pedram