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Author Cameron Brunner <cameron dot brunner at gmail dot com>
Full name Cameron Brunner <cameron dot brunner at gmail dot com>
Date 2006-05-30 17:46:52 PDT
Message On 5/31/06, Alan Pinstein <apinstein at mac dot com> wrote:
> > That is correct, yes. I didn't put up any examples of the Query yet,
> > although you can see one in the ticket comments.
>
> Yeah, that looks nice.
>
> > Basically Query holds stuff that isn't strictly a "criteria". Of
> > course, the line is a little grey when it comes to things like HAVING
> > clause, which is a criteria ... but in those cases, the logic is that
> > Query holds things that don't make sense nested like Criteria.
>
> I wouldn't really consider HAVING a grey area. I think it's only grey
> b/c you defined criteria as the "where" clause, but if you change the
> definition of Criteria to be "result set selectors" which is
> semantically what criteria are anyway, then HAVING fits in nicely.
> Although maybe that means that paging should be moved to criteria as
> well?
>
> The other option would be to make Criteria strictly "where" clause
> stuff, and put HAVING (and LIMIT/OFFSET) into Query.
>
> Also, where does group by go? Does it even need to be handled by
> Criteria? Are criteria *solely* for selecting data which will be used
> in Propel-managed objects?
>
> I think that I am fine conceptually with Criteria / Query being more
> of a "Propel object selector" system than a general way to create
> queries, but others may certainly disagree. We just need to pick
> either direction so that we can state it in the spec. May require
> some further discussion and empirical data from Propel users.

Personally i quite like the idea that criteria can handle group by,
its a lot cleaner and also removes problems of identifier quoting on
the group by clause

eg:
$c = new Criteria();
// category_id
$c->addSelectColumn ( BackgroundPeer::CATEGORY_ID );
// COUNT(blah)
$c->addSelectColumn ( BackgroundPeer::COUNT );
// GROUP BY category_id
$c->addGroupByColumn ( BackgroundPeer::CATEGORY_ID );

is actual code i use so removing group by from it would be frustrating
for me personally.


Cameron

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Criteria proposal hlellelid Hans Lellelid 2006-05-26 11:37:28 PDT
     Re: [propel-dev] Criteria proposal Cameron Brunner <cameron dot brunner at gmail dot com> Cameron Brunner <cameron dot brunner at gmail dot com> 2006-05-26 22:12:34 PDT
         Re: [propel-dev] Criteria proposal =?ISO-8859-1?Q?David_Z=FClke?= <dz at bitxtender dot com> =?ISO-8859-1?Q?David_Z=FClke?= <dz at bitxtender dot com> 2006-05-27 04:30:33 PDT
             Re: [propel-dev] Criteria proposal Cameron Brunner <cameron dot brunner at gmail dot com> Cameron Brunner <cameron dot brunner at gmail dot com> 2006-05-27 05:02:31 PDT
                 Re: [propel-dev] Criteria proposal =?ISO-8859-1?Q?David_Z=FClke?= <dz at bitxtender dot com> =?ISO-8859-1?Q?David_Z=FClke?= <dz at bitxtender dot com> 2006-05-27 08:17:09 PDT
                     Re: [propel-dev] Criteria proposal hlellelid Hans Lellelid 2006-05-27 09:43:15 PDT
     Re: [propel-dev] Criteria proposal Ants Aasma <ants dot aasma at gmail dot com> Ants Aasma <ants dot aasma at gmail dot com> 2006-05-27 12:47:55 PDT
         Re: [propel-dev] Criteria proposal hlellelid Hans Lellelid 2006-05-27 14:21:23 PDT
     Re: [propel-dev] Criteria proposal Alan Pinstein <apinstein at mac dot com> Alan Pinstein <apinstein at mac dot com> 2006-05-29 09:03:50 PDT
         Re: [propel-dev] Criteria proposal hlellelid Hans Lellelid 2006-05-29 11:51:30 PDT
         Re: [propel-dev] Criteria proposal hlellelid Hans Lellelid 2006-05-30 06:24:56 PDT
             Re: [propel-dev] Criteria proposal Alan Pinstein <apinstein at mac dot com> Alan Pinstein <apinstein at mac dot com> 2006-05-30 07:16:34 PDT
                 Re: [propel-dev] Criteria proposal hlellelid Hans Lellelid 2006-05-30 07:48:57 PDT
                     Re: [propel-dev] Criteria proposal Cameron Brunner <cameron dot brunner at gmail dot com> Cameron Brunner <cameron dot brunner at gmail dot com> 2006-05-30 17:09:25 PDT
                     Re: [propel-dev] Criteria proposal Alan Pinstein <apinstein at mac dot com> Alan Pinstein <apinstein at mac dot com> 2006-05-30 17:34:24 PDT
                         Re: [propel-dev] Criteria proposal Cameron Brunner <cameron dot brunner at gmail dot com> Cameron Brunner <cameron dot brunner at gmail dot com> 2006-05-30 17:46:52 PDT
                         Re: [propel-dev] Criteria proposal hlellelid Hans Lellelid 2006-05-30 18:43:06 PDT
                             Re: [propel-dev] Criteria proposal tamcy <7am dot online at gmail dot com> tamcy <7am dot online at gmail dot com> 2006-05-31 00:02:11 PDT
                                 Re: [propel-dev] Criteria proposal hlellelid Hans Lellelid 2006-05-31 04:36:50 PDT
                             Re: [propel-dev] Criteria proposal Ants Aasma <ants dot aasma at gmail dot com> Ants Aasma <ants dot aasma at gmail dot com> 2006-05-31 04:06:51 PDT
                                 Re: [propel-dev] Criteria proposal Alan Pinstein <apinstein at mac dot com> Alan Pinstein <apinstein at mac dot com> 2006-05-31 05:12:11 PDT
                                 Re: [propel-dev] Criteria proposal hlellelid Hans Lellelid 2006-05-31 05:49:59 PDT
                                     Re: [propel-dev] Criteria proposal Alan Pinstein <apinstein at mac dot com> Alan Pinstein <apinstein at mac dot com> 2006-05-31 06:05:32 PDT
                                         Re: [propel-dev] Criteria proposal hlellelid Hans Lellelid 2006-05-31 06:21:31 PDT
                                         Re: [propel-dev] Criteria proposal Ants Aasma <ants dot aasma at gmail dot com> Ants Aasma <ants dot aasma at gmail dot com> 2006-05-31 09:09:12 PDT
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