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Author Pedram Nimreezi <zenstyle at gmail dot com>
Full name Pedram Nimreezi <zenstyle at gmail dot com>
Date 2006-07-22 10:49:06 PDT
Message It can... If it couldn't I couldn't for example.. make a Memcache Session
Handler from the Memcache class
provided by the Memcache PECL nor would it make sense to make for example a
propel-gen-pecl-c++.


On 7/22/06, Alan Pinstein <apinstein at mac dot com> wrote:
>
> SDO looks pretty interesting. Never heard of it.
> However, I still don't think you answered my question.
>
> You proposed using propel-gen to create C++ classes for objects that could
> be compiled as a PECL, to get the execution speed of C++ with the
> flexibility of Propel.
>
> However, the propel generator creates a PHP object hierarchy, which you
> then modify the Object.php and ObjectPeer.php classes with your business
> logic.
>
> I am not aware of the ability to expose classes via PECL. All the times I
> have used it, it can return objects that implement interfaces, but never
> actual PHP classes that could be extended.
>
> For instance, if you use propel-gen-c++ to generate a MyObjectBase* as a
> PECL, I don't think you can then, in PHP, do:
>
> class MyObject extends MyObjectBase
> {
> function customCode()
> {
> // do something
> }
> }
>
> I don't believe this is possible, but I am not certain. And if it's not,
> the idea of propel-gen-c++ doesn't seem useful.
>
> I know you said that it was done in the links you sent, but I don't have
> time to dig through piles of links and CVS trees looking for this example.
> Feel free to provide a direct link showing how this is done.
>
> Thanks!
> Alan
>
> On Jul 22, 2006, at 12:39 PM, Pedram Nimreezi wrote:
>
> Am I sure it would be a good idea? Well I do have at least *some* evidence
> I mean IBM hasn't really done open source PHP until they did SDO which is
> a C++ and PHP API similar in purpose and design to creole and propel, SDO
> is to PDO as propel is to creole, meaning SDO relies on PDO for its data
> base
> accessibility. PDO unlike creole is written in C (afaik). SDO unlike
> propel in C++,
> PDO and SDO unlike propel and creole must be installed into PHP either
> statically
> through ./configure or dynamically through phpize, moved to the location
> specified in
> php.ini as extension_dir = and loaded like you would a standard .dll or
> .so extension.
> SDO does not have "optionally" a script-able interface to itself from PHP,
> it actually
> requires it since SDO was never completely ported to C++ from PHP, or they
> couldn't
> find the time to write the remaining portions so those objects are written
> in PHP 5, there
> is no PHP 4 version as SDO remains completely dependent on PDO for
> database access.
> Therefore I think it would be a *good* idea because they can be similar in
> speeds and propel
> can obviously spit out PHP 4, PHP 5 and now C++, why not PECL? or why not
> write the other
> classes as PHP 4 and PHP 5 compatible and then refactor that into a PECL
> so the only
> scripting is done on initialization code, makes little sense not to pursue
> this because *some*
> people cannot personally install an extension in their web server which
> would actually lower
> the load on the server and increase the throughput for this *good* type of
> programming.
> I would just like to say that I don't use SDO, I use propel and
> creole because I just like to,
> I rewrote creole and propel to be PHP 4 AND PHP 5 compatible and like that
> much better in
> my "rapid" framework whose design includes things for SEO and SOA.
> I've requested before at least for mine or the PHP 4 version be dual
> licensed under LGPL
> and BSD License, so that I can dual license MY framework under BSD license
> as well, also
> SDO is provided under much less restriction than the LPGL. I think helping
> make these patterns
> for advanced web application programming better and faster will help
> everyone. I know I wouldn't
> of had any reason to dedicate a couple years using propel and creole, or
> want to be involved had
> it not been for such good open source contributors like Hans, the PHP user
> groups and yourself.
>
>
> Ps, Here's a list of sites on the matter that may shed some light on SDO
> and PECL implementations
> where you can subclass classes and more. Don't forget to look all in the
> CVS code and tests..
>
>
> http://us2.php.net/sdo
> http://www.zend.com/​pecl/tutorials/sdo.p​hp
> http://www-128.ibm.c​om/developerworks/li​brary/os-sdophp/
> http://en.wikipedia.​org/wiki/Metadata
>
>
>
>
> On 7/22/06, Alan Pinstein < apinstein at mac dot com> wrote:
> >
> > Are you sure? Would you be able to subclass classes provided in PECL?
> > One still needs to write custom business logic on their propel
> > objects... how would that work?
> >
> > I don't know much about PECL so LMK!
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > On Jul 22, 2006, at 11:11 AM, Pedram Nimreezi wrote:
> >
> > Ok.. but making them as PECL's is a good idea too... I might do that...
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> ~
> Pedram Nimreezi -- President/Senior Engineer
> Major Computing, Inc
> --
>
> Not by age, but by knowledge is wisdom acquired.
>
>
>


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Pedram Nimreezi -- President/Senior Engineer
Major Computing, Inc
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Not by age, but by knowledge is wisdom acquired.
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propel / c++ Roel Vanhout <roel dot vanhout at gmail dot com> Roel Vanhout <roel dot vanhout at gmail dot com> 2006-07-21 09:11:01 PDT
     Re: [propel-dev] propel / c++ Pedram Nimreezi <zenstyle at gmail dot com> Pedram Nimreezi <zenstyle at gmail dot com> 2006-07-21 09:30:52 PDT
         Re: [propel-dev] propel / c++ Roel Vanhout <roel dot vanhout at gmail dot com> Roel Vanhout <roel dot vanhout at gmail dot com> 2006-07-21 09:41:38 PDT
             Re: [propel-dev] propel / c++ Pedram Nimreezi <zenstyle at gmail dot com> Pedram Nimreezi <zenstyle at gmail dot com> 2006-07-22 08:11:08 PDT
                 Re: [propel-dev] propel / c++ Alan Pinstein <apinstein at mac dot com> Alan Pinstein <apinstein at mac dot com> 2006-07-22 08:34:07 PDT
                     Re: [propel-dev] propel / c++ Pedram Nimreezi <zenstyle at gmail dot com> Pedram Nimreezi <zenstyle at gmail dot com> 2006-07-22 09:39:42 PDT
                         Re: [propel-dev] propel / c++ Alan Pinstein <apinstein at mac dot com> Alan Pinstein <apinstein at mac dot com> 2006-07-22 09:57:10 PDT
                             Re: [propel-dev] propel / c++ Pedram Nimreezi <zenstyle at gmail dot com> Pedram Nimreezi <zenstyle at gmail dot com> 2006-07-22 10:49:06 PDT
                                 Re: [propel-dev] propel / c++ Alan Pinstein <apinstein at mac dot com> Alan Pinstein <apinstein at mac dot com> 2006-07-22 12:13:38 PDT
                                     Re: [propel-dev] propel / c++ Pedram Nimreezi <zenstyle at gmail dot com> Pedram Nimreezi <zenstyle at gmail dot com> 2006-07-22 13:28:27 PDT
                         RE: [propel-dev] propel / c++ Soenke Ruempler <ruempler at topconcepts dot com> Soenke Ruempler <ruempler at topconcepts dot com> 2006-07-24 03:11:41 PDT
                             Re: [propel-dev] propel / c++ Roel Vanhout <roel dot vanhout at gmail dot com> Roel Vanhout <roel dot vanhout at gmail dot com> 2006-07-24 03:49:34 PDT
                                 RE: [propel-dev] propel / c++ Soenke Ruempler <ruempler at topconcepts dot com> Soenke Ruempler <ruempler at topconcepts dot com> 2006-07-24 04:07:02 PDT
                                     Re: [propel-dev] propel / c++ Roel Vanhout <roel dot vanhout at gmail dot com> Roel Vanhout <roel dot vanhout at gmail dot com> 2006-07-24 04:17:38 PDT
                                         Re: [propel-dev] propel / c++ hlellelid Hans Lellelid 2006-07-24 05:29:07 PDT
                                             Re: [propel-dev] propel / c++ Roel Vanhout <roel dot vanhout at gmail dot com> Roel Vanhout <roel dot vanhout at gmail dot com> 2006-07-24 06:19:26 PDT
                                                 Re: [propel-dev] propel / c++ hlellelid Hans Lellelid 2006-07-24 06:20:06 PDT
                                                 Re: [propel-dev] propel / c++ Roel Vanhout <roel dot vanhout at gmail dot com> Roel Vanhout <roel dot vanhout at gmail dot com> 2006-07-24 08:32:59 PDT
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